Liberal Bloggers, Politico On Top Of Tony Snow’s Mind
June 14, 2007 at 4:49 pm
From today’s White House news briefing with Tony Snow:
MR. SNOW: We are a little bit concerned about some reports on the Internet that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, in a conversation with liberal bloggers, had referred to General Pete Pace, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, as incompetent, and apparently, again according to the reports, had said disparaging things also about General David Petraeus. We certainly hope it’s not true, because in a time of war, for a leader of a party that says it supports the military, it seems outrageous to be issuing slanders toward the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and also the man who is responsible for the bulk of military operations in Iraq. Indeed, Senator Reid has, at some point, declared the war lost, and also has declared the surge a failure, even though it has not yet been fully enacted. I don’t know if it’s true or not. If it is true, I certainly hope he does apologize.
Q How come you didn’t wait to find out? Why the preemptive strike?
MR. SNOW: Well, I just think it’s appropriate to comment on it.
Q Whether or not it’s true?
Q That things are outrageous, but you don’t know whether they are or not they are true.
MR. SNOW: Well, do you trust the Politico? I don’t know.
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Why should anyone trust the Politico, the Drudge Report or Instapundit? They’re nothing more than cogs in the right wing noise machine.
buzz said,
June 14, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Do you ever read those sources? Especially the last one? I am guessing not.
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
“Do you ever read those sources? Especially the last one?”
Yes I do read them because I want to understand how people have become so confused about basic factual information that our presidential primaries are dedicated to debating the finer points of creationism.
Rob said,
June 14, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Antiphone:
Thanks for the brain farts. We’ll see you next time, no?
mje said,
June 14, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
I’m still trying to parse Antiphone’s last sentence. Maybe it lost something in translation from the original
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
Sorry, it should have read— heh, indeed.
Rob said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
Today, The Drudge Report contains numerous stories about some kind of violence in the Gaza Strip. Something about Hamas and Fatah… But, you know, you can’t trust the Right Wing Noise Machine(TM), so I’m sure it couldn’t possibly be true… And, by extrapolation, I’m sure Harry Reid couldn’t possibly have said those crazy things. Because that would be, you know, just weird and wacky.
Jabba the Tutt said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Rob: You just don’t know your place. The liberals are superior human beings to the rest of us. I’ve learned my place. Harry Reid is a genius. Hillary is a moral exemplar. Ted Kennedy is an expert on immigration. The MSM is an objective observer of the passing parade. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztph, I can’t keep a straight face anymore. Sorry, if I got any spray on your screen.
clazy said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
“How come you didn’t wait to find out?
Mr. Snow is being quietly generous to Reid, who will now have the opportunity to retract his ill-considered remarks about the surge while denying these comments about Casey and Petraeus, which would otherwise be wholly consistent with what we’ve come to expect from the Senator from Utah.
robc said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
maybe Antiphone can hip us all to the Real News Sites where Real News is dispensed (in easily digestible portions, no doubt)…
lee jorgensen said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Hey come on now, us folks here is Utah have plenty of troubles without having
Harry Reid blamed on us (try Nevada)
Henry Bowman said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Drudge Report may be right-wing (not obvious to me), but it is most definitely not a news sources. Rather, it is largely a collection of links to actual news reports. Occasionally there is a ’scoop’, but that is rather rare. It dwells at length on some information typically useful only to Hollywood, but I guess that is to be expected, as Drudge lives in or near Hollywood.
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
MR. SNOW: We are a little bit concerned about one anonymously sourced report on the Internet that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid referred to General Pete Pace, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, as competent. He’s not the least bit competent. That’s why he’ll be spending more time with his family.
I find it deeply troubling that Snow might have said this.
dicentra said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
which would otherwise be wholly consistent with what we’ve come to expect from the Senator from Utah.
Nevada. Don’t blame us Utahns for Reid’s outbursts. We’d never put a Dem in the Senate.
Tim in PA said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
“Yes I do read them because I want to understand how people have become so confused about basic factual information that our presidential primaries are dedicated to debating the finer points of creationism. ”
??? Are you really inferring that Reynolds, or his general audience, are creationism kooks? Because if you are, you’ve basically put a very large hat on which says “Ignore me, for I have not a clue as to what I am talking about”. Perhaps you should invest more time in learning some more “basic factual information” before tarring a bunch of people you apparently know nothing about.
Rick C said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
“I find it deeply troubling that Snow might have said this. ”
Sure, because an anonymous commenter on a blog is every bit as credible as The Politico (whatever that is.)
Tom said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Can anyone identify the dingbat above from the White House press corps who disputed the slanders made by very Hairy Reid? Thank you. Sounds like dimwit Helen Thomas.
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Just to be fair, The Politico might be credible.
robc said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
Just to be fair, The Politico might be credible.
Uhhh… not gonna cut it. Where oh where do I go, Antiphone, to get real news? I’m tired of the falsetivitissniss news that the masses use. Where does one find the Truth?
Steven Den Beste said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,282632,00.html
Reid has confirmed the report.
Brian said,
June 14, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
antiphone said,
June 14, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Just to be fair, The Politico might be credible.
You certainly do not appear to be credible. Sen. Reid’s alleged comments are in line with his earlier bleatings.
Paul in NJ said,
June 14, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
> Reid has confirmed the report.
………. oh, sorry; I was just waiting for ‘antiphone’ and company to retract their snarks, slurs, and such.
TallDave said,
June 14, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
We need to stick to trustworthy news sources, like Dan Rather, Al Gore, and Michael Moore.
Bort MacMahon said,
June 14, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
Just to be fair, The Politico might be credible.
You mean:
I can’t tell the truth from what I want to be the truth.
Mike said,
June 14, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
Al Gore isn’t a news source, Dave, he’s a bona-fide, card-carrying, officially certified Sage. Dang it, don’t you know wingnutz know anything?
robc said,
June 14, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
algore doesn’t so much speak but rather emanates rare and beautiful truths…
Casey Tompkins said,
June 14, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
… {crickets chirping} …
Yep, still waiting, Paul.
Rob said,
June 15, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Ok, I’m back! What did I miss? I finally found antiphone’s extra tin foil hat… Let the troof begin!
alejandro said,
June 15, 2007 @ 9:35 am
Wait a sec, this feels like deja vu.
“No, this can’t be true- look at who is reporting it plus my fav lefty blogs are denying it, oh he confirmed it? What’s the big deal we all know what he said was true anyway. Get over it. ”
repeat ad infinitum.
Diggs said,
June 15, 2007 @ 9:36 am
So, the right-wing Politico got it right, and the four liberal bloggers all lied to try to cover for Reid. Which group does antiphone look to for “the truth”?
When does antiphone write and acknowledge that his “truthtellers” were all lying about this, and his “liars” were all telling the truth?
Oh, and as long as the rhetorical questions are coming to mind, when is that we can finally call the Democrats unpatriotic? The Senate Majority Leader defames the top general in the DoD and the top general leading troops currently in battle against the enemy, and the enemy immediately uses it for propaganda purposes. Is there any better time to call him unpatriotic?
Antiphone, any input here?
Rob said,
June 15, 2007 @ 11:13 am
Diggs, I fully concur. All joking aside, what Mr. Reid said was reprehensible. Unfortunately, this has become a broken record. How often must we pick up the pieces after incidents like these? When will Mr. Reid, and those like him, understand the nature of the war we’re fighting? Our troops deserve better. Americans deserve better. The people of Iraq and Afghanistan deserve better. Oh for the days of Democrats like Harry Truman…
Buddy said,
June 15, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
“There is nothing to see here”
“This is none of your concern”
“Move along”
AnonymousCoward said,
June 15, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
What Mr. Reid said is reprehensible?
Can General Pace be incompetent? If he is, can anyone say it? Can you give us a list of who we can say is incompetent and who we have to shut up about?
Talk about a lack of accountability!