Comments on: New York Times: Shoot First … And Ridicule First http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/ Just When You Thought it was Safe to Take Politics Seriously Again Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:16:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: richarda http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7750 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:52:03 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7750 Virginia and other states (FL) that allow background-checked, safety-trained ordinary folks to carry concealed weapons for self-defense have found this NOT to be a problem. Not allowing people to even transit parks with weapons is typical gov't. mentality; endorsing ALL anti-gun actions by gov't. is typical Evil Media mentality, driven by urban bias & pig-ignorance. Virginia and other states (FL) that allow background-checked, safety-trained ordinary folks to carry concealed weapons for self-defense have found this NOT to be a problem. Not allowing people to even transit parks with weapons is typical gov’t. mentality; endorsing ALL anti-gun actions by gov’t. is typical Evil Media mentality, driven by urban bias & pig-ignorance.

]]> by: alan richard http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7657 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:31:11 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7657 who cares what the nytimes says... ny supported the KING during our revolution and has been communist ever since... bloomberg would do good to be shot but i guess he would rather be tortured like he gets in gay clubs in ny... seriously though, tens of millions of gun owners have NOT shot anyone today, what a headline that would make if they had... imagine... tens of millions... who cares what the nytimes says… ny supported the KING during our revolution and has been communist ever since… bloomberg would do good to be shot but i guess he would rather be tortured like he gets in gay clubs in ny… seriously though, tens of millions of gun owners have NOT shot anyone today, what a headline that would make if they had… imagine… tens of millions…

]]> by: David Sherman http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7620 Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:09:05 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7620 Mike Mchugh was quoted as saying : It’s odd that you can carry in the General Assembly in Virginia, but if you’re out in remote areas, like the Appalachian Trail, where two women had their throats slit … you can’t defend yourself,’ I appreciate this clarification and now I am whole heartedly in favor of this bill. Silly me, I thought the bill was designed to allow criminals and bad guys to carry concealed weapons into our parks. Now I see that its OK for the good guys to bring their weapons along as well. Mike Mchugh was quoted as saying :

It’s odd that you can carry in the General Assembly in Virginia, but if you’re out in remote areas, like the Appalachian Trail, where two women had their throats slit … you can’t defend yourself,’

I appreciate this clarification and now I am whole heartedly in favor of this bill. Silly me, I thought the bill was designed to allow criminals and bad guys to carry concealed weapons into our parks. Now I see that its OK for the good guys to bring their weapons along as well.

]]> by: Les Nessman http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7435 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:34:20 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7435 Vulgorilla is right. I guess that was my point. That's why I listed the most common calibers that I did. Ditto the .22, .25, .380, .40, etc....Other than some big ol' magnum monsters, a 'handgun bullet thru a brick wall' (and then thru insulation, lath, wallboard, plaster etc..) with enough force to harm is pretty remote. I probably shouldn't have even brought it up. Walt is right, don't use fmj for home defence. And I will be looking for future NYT articles about Webb's 2nd Amendment stances. I'll not hold my breath, tho. Vulgorilla is right. I guess that was my point. That’s why I listed the most common calibers that I did. Ditto the .22, .25, .380, .40, etc….Other than some big ol’ magnum monsters, a ‘handgun bullet thru a brick wall’ (and then thru insulation, lath, wallboard, plaster etc..) with enough force to harm is pretty remote. I probably shouldn’t have even brought it up.

Walt is right, don’t use fmj for home defence.

And I will be looking for future NYT articles about Webb’s 2nd Amendment stances. I’ll not hold my breath, tho.

]]> by: Walt Verrill http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7433 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:40:38 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7433 Well, a 44 magnum, 260 gr. jaketed bullet will go through a wall, so what? A person using a 44 magnum for home defense could kill somebody besides the bad guy. All gun owners are not idiots, most realize a soft tip hollow point from a 38 special or 45 apc (low velocity) is what they need in the home. The shotgun with # 7 bird shot would be better, but I use a 45 loaded with 230 grain Hydra-Shock ammo. You are always going to have the "outer fringe" people in any scenerio, that just don't get it. Well, a 44 magnum, 260 gr. jaketed bullet will go through a wall, so what? A person using a 44 magnum for home defense could kill somebody besides the bad guy. All gun owners are not idiots, most realize a soft tip hollow point from a 38 special or 45 apc (low velocity) is what they need in the home. The shotgun with # 7 bird shot would be better, but I use a 45 loaded with 230 grain Hydra-Shock ammo. You are always going to have the “outer fringe” people in any scenerio, that just don’t get it.

]]> by: Vulgorilla http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7421 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:03:45 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7421 I can routinely put FMJ .44 Rem Mag slugs through brick walls. Not much of a feat at all. I can routinely put FMJ .44 Rem Mag slugs through brick walls. Not much of a feat at all.

]]> by: Les Nessman http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7418 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:27:45 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7418 What type of FMJ handgun bullets go thru the average residential brick wall? 9mm, .38 spc, .45ACP, ? Sounds like hyperbole. What type of FMJ handgun bullets go thru the average residential brick wall? 9mm, .38 spc, .45ACP, ?

Sounds like hyperbole.

]]> by: Prospector's an idiot http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7406 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:10:23 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7406 No one recommends anything like that; heck, in most situations FMJ handgun bullets are suboptimal because they'll go thru the average residential brick wall. No one recommends anything like that; heck, in most situations FMJ handgun bullets are suboptimal because they’ll go thru the average residential brick wall.

]]> by: Prospector http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7400 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:17:02 +0000 http://www.extrememortman.com/congress/new-york-times-shoot-first-and-ridicule-first/#comment-7400 I recommend full-automatic weapons. I recommend full-automatic weapons.

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