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	<title>Comments on: Correcting Olbermann&#8217;s Report On David Kuo</title>
	<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/</link>
	<description>Just When You Thought it was Safe to Take Politics Seriously Again</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1510</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As a moderate Democrat,  I enjoy Keith's program very much. However, when watching I understand that Countdown is going to have the same biased, slant that FOX News and ALL of talk radio has, just the other direction. 

What I commend MSNBC for is having Countdown followed by Joe Scarborough where the conservatives get their point across. Imagine FOX having a liberal talk show host on their network, following The O'Reilly factor.

Last week when the David Kuo story broke, Keith spent a couple of days highlighting how the Chrisitian Right is viewed by White House staff. He viewed Kuo's book as a revealing portriat of how Rove and company use and exploit my fellow Americans that call the themselves the Christian Coalition. Immiediately following Countdown on the first night Scarbourough treated the book like it was an insignificant joke. 

I suppose the truth, like most of America, is probably somewhere in the middle. The FAR Christian right IS probably viewed as nuts by many staffers, just like the far left environmental folks (Bobby Kennedy Jr comes to  mind) are viewed as wacky by mainstream Democrats.Remember, we also have Ralph Nader in our party and he will never be viewed as close to being a moderate.

Unfortunately for our country, talk radio, and biased, onesided shows like Countdown and The O'Rielly Factor have turned many Americans into fanatics with an almost sports fan like devotion to one side or the other.

We need to start listening TO each other and respecting the other's point of view. Sadly I do not see it happening anytime soon.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a moderate Democrat,  I enjoy Keith&#8217;s program very much. However, when watching I understand that Countdown is going to have the same biased, slant that FOX News and ALL of talk radio has, just the other direction. </p>
<p>What I commend MSNBC for is having Countdown followed by Joe Scarborough where the conservatives get their point across. Imagine FOX having a liberal talk show host on their network, following The O&#8217;Reilly factor.</p>
<p>Last week when the David Kuo story broke, Keith spent a couple of days highlighting how the Chrisitian Right is viewed by White House staff. He viewed Kuo&#8217;s book as a revealing portriat of how Rove and company use and exploit my fellow Americans that call the themselves the Christian Coalition. Immiediately following Countdown on the first night Scarbourough treated the book like it was an insignificant joke. </p>
<p>I suppose the truth, like most of America, is probably somewhere in the middle. The FAR Christian right IS probably viewed as nuts by many staffers, just like the far left environmental folks (Bobby Kennedy Jr comes to  mind) are viewed as wacky by mainstream Democrats.Remember, we also have Ralph Nader in our party and he will never be viewed as close to being a moderate.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for our country, talk radio, and biased, onesided shows like Countdown and The O&#8217;Rielly Factor have turned many Americans into fanatics with an almost sports fan like devotion to one side or the other.</p>
<p>We need to start listening TO each other and respecting the other&#8217;s point of view. Sadly I do not see it happening anytime soon.</p>
<p>Jim
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		<title>by: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1484</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1484</guid>
					<description>Salvage...

Olbermann rountinely finsihes 3rd or 4th in the ratings.  His total viewership falls far below 1 million (or less than .3% of the U.S. population), and far lower in the &quot;coveted&quot; 25-54 demo.  To most, he is just another guy who used to be on ESPN.  

Ok, so his ratings have gone up since he started his ranting, er, special comments.  He still fighting desperatly for 3rd place.

So where was Kentuckyliz wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salvage&#8230;</p>
<p>Olbermann rountinely finsihes 3rd or 4th in the ratings.  His total viewership falls far below 1 million (or less than .3% of the U.S. population), and far lower in the &#8220;coveted&#8221; 25-54 demo.  To most, he is just another guy who used to be on ESPN.  </p>
<p>Ok, so his ratings have gone up since he started his ranting, er, special comments.  He still fighting desperatly for 3rd place.</p>
<p>So where was Kentuckyliz wrong?
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		<title>by: TimeToFlush</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1471</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know the book just came out but did anyone here read Kuo’s book?  
Did Kuo write “that he wrote political speeches designed to appeal to religion audiences, even when the speakers did not want to give those speeches”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the book just came out but did anyone here read Kuo’s book?<br />
Did Kuo write “that he wrote political speeches designed to appeal to religion audiences, even when the speakers did not want to give those speeches”?
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		<title>by: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1468</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Where's the beef? Did the Bush White House fake a faith based initative as Kuo claims or not? Was all this talk about &quot;compassion just talk, or did Bush actually do something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the beef? Did the Bush White House fake a faith based initative as Kuo claims or not? Was all this talk about &#8220;compassion just talk, or did Bush actually do something?
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		<title>by: Sara Farouk</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1453</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Olbermann rocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olbermann rocks!
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		<title>by: salvage</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1447</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1447</guid>
					<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/ENT/610090315/1025/LIFE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Olbermann's rants produce ratings&lt;/a&gt;

Since kentuckyliz got it completely wrong everything she says about anything else must also be wrong.

Or perhaps not?

I see no one disputes the overall point; that the GOP use religion to earn votes at taxpayer expense. 

You'd think conservatives would be upset about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/ENT/610090315/1025/LIFE" rel="nofollow">Olbermann&#8217;s rants produce ratings</a></p>
<p>Since kentuckyliz got it completely wrong everything she says about anything else must also be wrong.</p>
<p>Or perhaps not?</p>
<p>I see no one disputes the overall point; that the GOP use religion to earn votes at taxpayer expense. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think conservatives would be upset about that.
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		<title>by: dick</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1442</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Steve,

Before you talk too much about Craig Winn, you might want to check on the CV of Paul Krugman.  He also worked for Enron.  Pres Clinton also sent his trade secretary out with the Enron salesmen to get them contracts.   That is where your Enron problems happened.  Bush was the one who stomped on Enron for its misdeeds. 

Olbermann is a hack at anything other than sports, just like Frank Rich is a hack at anything other than theatre criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Before you talk too much about Craig Winn, you might want to check on the CV of Paul Krugman.  He also worked for Enron.  Pres Clinton also sent his trade secretary out with the Enron salesmen to get them contracts.   That is where your Enron problems happened.  Bush was the one who stomped on Enron for its misdeeds. </p>
<p>Olbermann is a hack at anything other than sports, just like Frank Rich is a hack at anything other than theatre criticism.
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		<title>by: TBDave</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1440</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1440</guid>
					<description>Don't hold your breath waiting for journalistic journeyman Olbermann to correct his errors.  He's too busy &quot;speaking truth to power&quot; to worry about insignificant things like facts.

Why would he set the record straight on &quot;Countdown To No News&quot; when he can be pimping his book.  Apparently it's outselling O'Reilly's book at a supermarket in Spokane.  Soon to be available in the $1 bin at your local carwash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for journalistic journeyman Olbermann to correct his errors.  He&#8217;s too busy &#8220;speaking truth to power&#8221; to worry about insignificant things like facts.</p>
<p>Why would he set the record straight on &#8220;Countdown To No News&#8221; when he can be pimping his book.  Apparently it&#8217;s outselling O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s book at a supermarket in Spokane.  Soon to be available in the $1 bin at your local carwash.
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		<title>by: kentuckyliz</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1439</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1439</guid>
					<description>Keith Olbermann doesn't matter.  His ratings are so low he's about to drop off the radar.  I've tried watching his show and it's painfully bad.  It appears that the rest of America except for a couple hundred thousand households agrees.

MSNBC must be feeling pessimistic about its prospects at this moment.  You can bet your sweet bippy that KO will be replaced as soon as MSNBC finds it feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith Olbermann doesn&#8217;t matter.  His ratings are so low he&#8217;s about to drop off the radar.  I&#8217;ve tried watching his show and it&#8217;s painfully bad.  It appears that the rest of America except for a couple hundred thousand households agrees.</p>
<p>MSNBC must be feeling pessimistic about its prospects at this moment.  You can bet your sweet bippy that KO will be replaced as soon as MSNBC finds it feasible.
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		<title>by: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1438</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So apparently the party line from the Olbermaniacs is, it doesn't matter how much KO gets wrong or distorts, because Rush gets stuff wrong too, and Craig Winn is a jerk.

It seems the KO (and all of MSNBC since the Abrams coup), who goes to great lengths, nightly, to point out the mistakes of others, should at least be held to minimal standards of accuracy.

Instead, we get &quot;Olbermann did a very long report over several days, and that’s all the “lies” you could find. I am very unimpressed.&quot; and &quot;These mistakes don’t invalidate the rest of what he was saying.&quot;

With days to prepare for his &quot;investigation&quot; which apparently consisted simply of reading quotes from Kuo's book, KO 's staff didn't have time to fact check their report.  Hmm.  Maybe the reports will be better now that the Yankees are playing golf in Florida and KO can go back to working full-time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So apparently the party line from the Olbermaniacs is, it doesn&#8217;t matter how much KO gets wrong or distorts, because Rush gets stuff wrong too, and Craig Winn is a jerk.</p>
<p>It seems the KO (and all of MSNBC since the Abrams coup), who goes to great lengths, nightly, to point out the mistakes of others, should at least be held to minimal standards of accuracy.</p>
<p>Instead, we get &#8220;Olbermann did a very long report over several days, and that’s all the “lies” you could find. I am very unimpressed.&#8221; and &#8220;These mistakes don’t invalidate the rest of what he was saying.&#8221;</p>
<p>With days to prepare for his &#8220;investigation&#8221; which apparently consisted simply of reading quotes from Kuo&#8217;s book, KO &#8217;s staff didn&#8217;t have time to fact check their report.  Hmm.  Maybe the reports will be better now that the Yankees are playing golf in Florida and KO can go back to working full-time.
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		<title>by: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1437</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't be too hard on Odormann and his gameshow Meltdown.  Odormann has been devoting most of his time to uncovering the &quot;voting irregularities&quot; (Odormann's words) in Ohio that &quot;gave&quot; the 2004 presidential election to Bush.  Therefore, Odormann can't be blamed for the infinite amount of hysterical errors he commits nightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too hard on Odormann and his gameshow Meltdown.  Odormann has been devoting most of his time to uncovering the &#8220;voting irregularities&#8221; (Odormann&#8217;s words) in Ohio that &#8220;gave&#8221; the 2004 presidential election to Bush.  Therefore, Odormann can&#8217;t be blamed for the infinite amount of hysterical errors he commits nightly.
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		<title>by: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1436</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To quote Craig Winn is beyond belief. You should relly take a moment to find out what a disgraced scumbag he is. He was an online Enron thief. He also rippoffed Wal-Mart before he ripped off people with his Value America nonsense.

The weakest of your source only goes to prove the weakness of your point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Craig Winn is beyond belief. You should relly take a moment to find out what a disgraced scumbag he is. He was an online Enron thief. He also rippoffed Wal-Mart before he ripped off people with his Value America nonsense.</p>
<p>The weakest of your source only goes to prove the weakness of your point
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		<title>by: 2Wolves</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1435</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>When you don't have a record to run on you attack anything and everything else.

I think Mortman just wants a FNS gig.  He's jealous.  

Be POSITIVE Morty.  

In the time it took to read your little opinion at least one more U.S. serviceman died, for no reason, in the Iraqi occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you don&#8217;t have a record to run on you attack anything and everything else.</p>
<p>I think Mortman just wants a FNS gig.  He&#8217;s jealous.  </p>
<p>Be POSITIVE Morty.  </p>
<p>In the time it took to read your little opinion at least one more U.S. serviceman died, for no reason, in the Iraqi occupation.
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		<title>by: Jack Spratson</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1434</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So Olbermann may or may not have made a slip up depends on who you believe.  Wow, front page news!  Yet, Limbaugh does this on average of about every  5 minutes and it's completely ignored by his Neo-Con servants. 

Come on folks, surely you can do better than this.  Go get your own game in order then come back to the playing field.

This article is a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Olbermann may or may not have made a slip up depends on who you believe.  Wow, front page news!  Yet, Limbaugh does this on average of about every  5 minutes and it&#8217;s completely ignored by his Neo-Con servants. </p>
<p>Come on folks, surely you can do better than this.  Go get your own game in order then come back to the playing field.</p>
<p>This article is a joke!
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		<title>by: Robert Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1433</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Looks like the OlbyLoons have alighted here in yet another pathetic attempt to &quot;defend&quot; Keith by minimizing clear documentation of malfeasance by Keith and his &quot;sources&quot;.

Mortman demonstrates once again that the more you know about an OlbyRant the more you realize that, to borrow from Howard's favorite quipster, Keith's &quot;reporting&quot; is like cotton candy - it melts on contact.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar - and sometimes an error-prone, demagogic partisan hack is just an error-prone, demagogic partisan hack. No &quot;conspiracy&quot; here, just more sloppy reporting from the deplorable Keith Olbermann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the OlbyLoons have alighted here in yet another pathetic attempt to &#8220;defend&#8221; Keith by minimizing clear documentation of malfeasance by Keith and his &#8220;sources&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mortman demonstrates once again that the more you know about an OlbyRant the more you realize that, to borrow from Howard&#8217;s favorite quipster, Keith&#8217;s &#8220;reporting&#8221; is like cotton candy - it melts on contact.</p>
<p>Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar - and sometimes an error-prone, demagogic partisan hack is just an error-prone, demagogic partisan hack. No &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; here, just more sloppy reporting from the deplorable Keith Olbermann.
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		<title>by: Qwinn</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1432</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is &quot;nitpicking&quot;?  Heh.  This stuff is 10,000x as important and germane to the overall point being made as any criticism I ever saw of Ann Coulter's &quot;Slander&quot; or &quot;Treason&quot;, where absolutely shocking data about media bias was dismissed because out of thousands of examples, she got one tiny little issue about reporting on Dale Earnhardt's death wrong, and... hell, I never even saw a factual correction of anything in &quot;Treason&quot; that wasn't more distorted than they claimed her book was (especially Joe Conanson's excreable &quot;review&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is &#8220;nitpicking&#8221;?  Heh.  This stuff is 10,000x as important and germane to the overall point being made as any criticism I ever saw of Ann Coulter&#8217;s &#8220;Slander&#8221; or &#8220;Treason&#8221;, where absolutely shocking data about media bias was dismissed because out of thousands of examples, she got one tiny little issue about reporting on Dale Earnhardt&#8217;s death wrong, and&#8230; hell, I never even saw a factual correction of anything in &#8220;Treason&#8221; that wasn&#8217;t more distorted than they claimed her book was (especially Joe Conanson&#8217;s excreable &#8220;review&#8221;).
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		<title>by: salvage</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1431</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Holy crap! That all means.... nothing.

Karl Rove rounded up the Bible thumping wingnut vote with tax dollars. If you're cool with that, fine, say so. 

Oh wait, you and the Perfesser already did by this sad picking of nits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap! That all means&#8230;. nothing.</p>
<p>Karl Rove rounded up the Bible thumping wingnut vote with tax dollars. If you&#8217;re cool with that, fine, say so. </p>
<p>Oh wait, you and the Perfesser already did by this sad picking of nits.
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		<title>by: bmbikes</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1430</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>These mistakes don't invalidate the rest of what he was saying.  I put this on the level of declaring that U.S. Grant was the 19th President - when in fact he was the 18th. Or misspelling al Queda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These mistakes don&#8217;t invalidate the rest of what he was saying.  I put this on the level of declaring that U.S. Grant was the 19th President - when in fact he was the 18th. Or misspelling al Queda.
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		<title>by: lk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Instapundit linked, so I looked.  Olbermann did a very long report over several days, and that's all the &quot;lies&quot; you could find.  I am very unimpressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instapundit linked, so I looked.  Olbermann did a very long report over several days, and that&#8217;s all the &#8220;lies&#8221; you could find.  I am very unimpressed.
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		<title>by: Mickey Finn</title>
		<link>http://www.extrememortman.com/cable-tv/correcting-olbermanns-report-on-david-kuo/#comment-1426</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Glad you cleared up that minutia.  I feel much better now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you cleared up that minutia.  I feel much better now&#8230;
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