Are you people really so dense that you don’t see he was talking about BUSH?

Bush who was mediocre at everything in college. He was even a 2nd string cheerleader in college for God’s sake. I am not kidding.

….You get US stuck in Iraq!!! He left out the US, put it in and the whole thing makes perfect sense. Bush was a mediocre C- student who didn’t do his homework on warfare and wouldn’t even listen to his dad. He gets us stuck in Iraq!

After reading the blog reaction, it’s so clear how people’s preconceived notions skew their ability to comprehend.

The percentage of high school graduates in the military is higher than the general population. Try to have a clue before bad mouthing the people who give you the right to be a dumb ass.

I think we know Kerry’s opinion about our troops thanks to his slanderous statements he has made about them over his career, so it’s not a stretch to think he was insulting the troops instead of a lame effort to insult W (who I am no fan of BTW).

People criticizing the list need to relax. There were stupid and/or funny statements from both sides.

Thanks and cheers.

vinzago, if JFK managed to botch his joke, then what did he intend to speak when the words “…you get stuck in Iraq” came out of his mouth? What was …. the punch line? If JFK did, indeed, plan to use just the words “…you get stuck in Iraq” then what intonation or timing(pause?) would have made it a joke?

vinzago, please substantiate your seemingly implausible claim. Apparently JFK did not recognize at the time that he’d presented a botched joke. Didn’t he expect a certain response, if he thought it was a joke at the time? Is he regularly in touch with the demeanor of those around him? After he claimed it was a botched joke, did he demonstrate how he would have presented it so that it was, indeed, a non-botched joke? It appears that JFK dissembled via the “botch” claim a few days later; have you done likewise?

“i keep forgetting that theres always those people who will just can’t stand to let something done in the spirit of good humor alone.” paperflowers, please include on your list not just spelling but syntax. Whose GOOD humor are you referring to?

vinzago, this is an honest question: in the aftermath, did Kerry ever specify that he was referring to the administration, and if so, when? Because, while that’s certainly a clever angle to take with it, I don’t think it has much credibility if Kerry didn’t spell it out that way.

What are you talking about? I invite you to go with me the next time I deploy to Iraq (4th time is a charm, I understand), and tell the troops that they are substandard. This should be fun.

Back then, the National Guard was being deployed to Vietnam and Bush, as a fighter pilot, had a greater chance of seeing duty than Kerry did. Kerry enlisted (when he learned he would be drafted anyway) to get his choice of assignments - and chose one that had not seen ANY action yet. When his position was redeployed to see action, he copped three purple bandaids and got out quick.

Why do you think he could get only 8 of the 254 men he served with to support him?

bah humbug. go watch that Dr. Suess movie about The Grinch and lighten up.

happy & safe holidays to all,
~paperflowers~

I’m not a Kerry fan, but the fact is that his reference *was* about the administration, not the troops. To pretend otherwise is to be dishonest.

It’s now been two times that I’ve seen a car at a gas station with that 2004-election-sticker on the back. While my gas pump is dispensing, I’ve sidled over and pointed at the Kerry-Edwards sticker, “HALP us Jon Carry, We’R STUCK hear’n IRAK! HALP us Jon Carry, We’R STUCK hear’n IRAK! …. (repeatedly seeking JFK’s help.) Other folks begin coming over in support. The second incident was noteworthy: the driver yelled to me “It was a joke!” so I assumed my normal dialect and asked him “So what was the punch line? Each of his jokes had to have a punch so… what was the punch line?”

The guy tries to put together the recent claimed punch line: “Uh, if you don’t study, you’ll get us into the next Iraq quagmire.” The immediate response was, “NO, NO, not the recent botched joke …. the most FAMOUS of Kerry’s botched jokes. Come’on you know the punch line of his most famous botched joke, what was it? What was the punch line?” The guy was flummoxed, then another chap who had come over said to the Kerry fan, “Come on what’s the punch line!”

Providing additional exhortation, “You’ve repeatedly heard Kerry’s most famous botched-joke punch line. …Think man … think!” Naturally I had to help further: “The poor Senator simply cannot proficiently present his punch lines. What a pitiful development; his Brahmin essence goes right over our heads year after year. What’s the punch line of his most famous botched joke??”

The democrat was clearly confused or stumped.

“Kerry’s most famous botched punch line was ‘Genghis Khan’. When Kerry was testifying in the senate years before he arrived via his electorate, he only meant to crack a joke. It was simply a joke. His distinctive pronunciation was meant to help us dullards recognize the punch line. Stupid us. He’s so smart; too smart to present a punch line. ‘Genghis Khan.’ ‘Genghis Khan’.”

The stupid little game of calling everyone who didn’t see combat a draft doger and everyone who did a hero should stop. There are usually both conservatives and liberals on both sides of any war. Ben Franklin would be a good example to those who can read and comprehend. The problem is nobody bothers to read and comprehend so we get a bunch of idiots like Clinton, GW, Patrick “$350 DUI” Kennedy, and Ted “Clogged Tubes” Stevens.

You simply cannot call GW a draft doger without calling Clinton the same. Calling them names still does not say anything useful. Doing actual research (not finding data to support your belief, that’s an intellectual hand job) might actually clue you in on the situation.